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Poster: PitchBlack Date: Sep 13, 2006 11:15am
Forum: etree Subject: guitar solo transcriptions.

this is a suggestion to those who use the site and those who run it.

the great thing about many of the bands that appear on this site is the improv. the solos are different from night to night/ show to show. i'd guess that there are a lot of users of this site who are musicians. what would be really cool is that if someone heard a particular solo they liked from a particular show, they could transcribe it and post it for others to learn.

i have spent a lot of time trying to learn some of Derek Trucks' solos and have a number of them tabbed out, but i'm not a great guitarist like derek.
they could be posted in power tab or guitar pro format or easily converted to pdf files. people could offer corrections or
it would be awesome if others who have done stuff could post theirs and share.

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Poster: nagdot Date: Sep 14, 2006 8:21am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

why wouldnt you just wanna be original instead of copying someone note for note way to many cover bands in here as it is but than again i can understand record companies make it impossible to sell original music due to costs of high executives salaries whose fat ass are caused by fat pockets if you wanna here some good licks look for mick sweda former 80s band guitarist www.monstersmakingmusic.com

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Poster: onemanguitar Date: Sep 14, 2006 8:31am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

While I'm all about originality and improv, learning other people's music opens the door to understanding music in a greater context.

I'm not aware of many if any guitarists that never learned parts to someone elses' work. Even such visionairies as Hedrix, Gilmour, Clapton, Page, Garcia, etc...studied and learned how to play other people's music.

Music is a language......and part of learning it involves studying how "words and sentences are put together"

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Poster: onemanguitar Date: Sep 13, 2006 11:51am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

Great idea.....personally I'd like to start off by seeing some tabs for the basic song structures/progressions, riffs, etc.

Then get into tabs of specific improvs.

I love Derek Trucks as well. Do you have any tabs of his songs (not just the solos?). If so, I'd love to see some of them.

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Poster: PitchBlack Date: Sep 14, 2006 7:51am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

here's somewhere to start:

http://www.inthejourney.com/dtbtabs/

it has a lot of the basics.

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Poster: GirdwoodTelevision Date: Sep 13, 2006 4:04pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

You're welcome to post pdfs to our opensource texts collection:
http://www.archive.org/details/opensource

Alexis

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Poster: TheShocka Date: Sep 13, 2006 6:06pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

You should learn how to read music and not tab....if we got rid of tab, all guitar players would have to read music...thus eliminating many problems.....

I'm down to donate a whole notebook of trey and jerry solos i transcribed, but I'm not about to tab that shit out. I transcribed it in notes, just like every other instrument. Plus, the fingereing you like may be different than someone else likes, so notes would be more efficient and easier.

The thing about these guys, though, is even though it is improvised, you still see tons of similar licks amongst players. After a while, you know whats coming next...so i don't think its completely necessary to transcribe a whole bunch of solos of the same song from diffferent shows.

Great idea...no fucking tab...help make better guitar players across the nation.

Shocker out!

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Poster: onemanguitar Date: Sep 14, 2006 7:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

I respectively disagree with how detrimental tabs are. While I am able to read sheet music to a certain usable degree, standard notation was developed for the keyboard. Standard notation looks like an obscure language when applied to the guitar interms of the way it is mathematically laid out.

I agree it is important to learn music theory, etc...but the burden is on the player to learn those things. Simply learning how to read the notes (presented in standard notation) in relation to the fretboard is not really much different than reading tab without the knowledge to back it up.

I realize timing is not notated in tabs (typically), but a beginner listening to a piece of work and relating standard notations to the fretboard isn't going to concern themself with reading the rhythm structure anyway....it is about feel.

How many concert guitarists can sight read music as it applies to the guitar? VERY, VERY few....so why do you have such an aversion to it?

Some of the best guitar players to ever live couldn't even read standard notation. This is a fact.

Proper tab which indicates the Chord chard above, it seems to me to be a great learning tool to use in conjunction with learing music theory. As it very quickly shows the reader the particular chord formation used or the fingering used. Since unlike other instruments the tonal variation between the sames notes on the instrument can be quite different on the guitar.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 14, 2006 7:45am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

you are 110% right on, onemanguitar. very well said!!
i used to read standard notation when i played piano in my younger days (would take me awhile to relearn that now that i am brain addled- lol)
now that i play acousitc guitar, i use tabs exclusively - if that is a bad thing in some people's opinion - so be it. it works for me. doesn't make me any less or more of a player. and i believe you can get the feel of timing and rhythym with tabs if they are written out right. there is no "one way" of writing out tabs. my guitar teacher is great noting the timing and rhythms of a tune while providing it to me in tabluture format. just my two cents

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Poster: PitchBlack Date: Sep 14, 2006 7:56am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

what i think is the most useful thing about tab.

take someone like Derek Trucks. He plays exclusively in open E. If a person spends their whole career playing in standard tuning and you give them a guitar that's tuned to open E and a piece of music in standard music notation, that would really blow me away if the could make the switch and sight read it on the spot. I've never met anyone who could do that. But with tabs it's totally easy.

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Poster: onemanguitar Date: Sep 14, 2006 8:18am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

Fantastic point. I'm a huge fan of alternate tunings (I've written and recorded an entire ablum of alternate tuning pieces).

And when I write them down, so I can remember how to play them in the future..I always use guitar tab, as it is MUCH less mind numbing to do so.

Also...thanks for the link to the DTB tabs...can't wait to check those out with my guitar in my hands!!!

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Poster: PitchBlack Date: Sep 14, 2006 7:21am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: guitar solo transcriptions.

your assumption that because i mentioned something about tab that it means i don't know how to read standard music notation is in error. i can read music notation as well as i can read tab. i realize that there are a lot of people who use tab exclusively. i won't put them down for that. there are a lot of people who can't read music who are great guitarists. Jeff Beck is a great example.

anyway, since i can read whatever you have done in standard notation, it would be cool to see it.

maybe you could post it in the open source section like another user has suggested.